WNYC, the largest public radio station in the country, has unearthed from its archives a rare, 30-minute Malcolm X interview – from his days in the Nation of Islam – conducted by reporter Eleanor Fischer. In it, X discusses the difference between separation and segregation, Black Muslim philosophy, and why “what Martin Luther King is doing is disarming the black people of America of their natural right.”
He goes on to say: “If a man puts his arms around me voluntarily, that’s brotherhood, but if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that’s not brotherhood, that’s hypocrisy.”
It’s a fascinating snapshot of a moment in time in Malcolm’s X’s political evolution.
In addition, on “The Takeaway” this morning, Celeste Headlee interviewed former Ebony editor Peter Bailey and Earl Grant, two individuals whose lives were intertwined with Malcolm’s before his assassination. Both discussed Malcolm’s emphasis on gathering knowledge and being politically plugged in as his key legacy:
GRANT: “He stressed all the time that we have to be informed about whatever we’re doing. He told us, ‘There’s never been an ignorant revolution. Never would be one.’ It’s always about information.”
Listen to the full interview with Malcolm X below: